Most of what you’ll read on the internet about Nibiru comes from Zecharia Sitchin’s noggin and those of his cyber-acolytes. In other words, most of it’s nonsense. Here is an exception. I’ll have to admit some of it is over my head (I’m not an astronomer), but this strikes me as an earnest attempt to make sense of the Mesopotamian material on Nibiru (read: the real stuff, not what Sitchin invents in his books). It may be helpful for readers to have these other links handy:
Recent Essay on Nibiru
If you let me know what went overhead, I’ll try to clarify it. Or maybe my ‘Power of Sixty’ essay and accompanying YouTube videos will be useful. They illuminate the sixty-year cycle from a different perspective, and are at http://www.randommonkeyworks.com/latd/thePowerOfSixty.php.
Best wishes,
David O’Neil
3WMElliott has a running series of science-based anti-Nibiru vids. I’ve seen a few, they’re pretty good. And the loonies arguing in the comments are unintentionally hilarious for their inability to check their own non-facts and understand their own arguments.
http://www.youtube.com/user/3WMElliott
thanks for this – should be fun viewing.
I have been mastering WordPress, and figured out that the essay works better as a post instead of a page, so it is moving to http://randommonkeyworks.com/wordpress/?p=177. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Its fair enough to debunk others theories with what you believe is fact. To ridicule people for theories and beliefs is just childish and shows only that your mind is closed. Many theories in history have been ridiculed and later have become stable facts in science after all it is the imagination that fills the gaps in what we don’t understand, and in many cases the imagination no matter how wrong has lead others to great discoveries. For example sitchin maybe wrong (although I don’t know enough about linguistics to say either way) but his ideas have spurred others on to their own theories and ideas, for example the author of these articles, with out sitchins theories the authors path may not have lead them to these theories and conclusions. If every person thought exactly the same and shared the same ideas we would never progress, it is only through mistakes that we find the truth. I have found these articles interesting and informative but to ridicule other theories and believers only shows arrogance which adds nothing to the body of the argument.
nonsense deserves being treated as nonsense; it does not merit respect. What makes the nibiru stuff even more worthy of contempt is that it deliberately ignores and turns a blind eye to what the Mesopotamians said in their own texts about nibiru. The dead can’t object to the nonsense, so I do it for them.
@ MSH “nonsense deserves being treated as nonsense; it does not merit respect.”
I do agree however please understand MSH, everyone is not as well educated as you are in theses studies. I would safely bet that possibly more than half of the people who visit and read your articles are trying to learn the truth. (As a family man, who has a job like nearly everyone else, I can not afford to allocate as much time as the next person) With that being said we can all clearly see that you are VERY educated in the works that you have provided. But at least realize that although you might see it as nonsense (someones comment) everyone honestly just might not know and are trying to find out…..At the same time there are those who are more educated who might bring up points that are just foolish….I’m not talking about those.
As always thank you for your work and at least consider what i’ve noted.
I wouldn’t retract that statement. It is why I try to direct people to read XYZ sources when I post or reply. I can’t possibly take the time to conduct classes on every point, and so I have to cut to the chase. But see my other reply to your other comment.
these people still think the earth is flat
the latest interesting theories are as follows.the founders helped create the universe and seeded the universe with spiritual energies or particlesthat became dna.sal rachele has a website with the founders on it.they state that much later various groups from the sirians, the pleiadians and others came to earth at various times and interacted with humans.from what i understand the pleiadians set up sumeria, the sirians egypt and so on.for further information there is information called the true history of the earth on sal rachele website.this is not scholarly so it does not come within the remit of scholarly studies of sumeria or the jewish tradition but it is worth looking at
whose theories are these? Where is the scientific data?
As usual if one avoid going to the source of anything and only take for granted what other people say we will miss something along the way, maybe the ability of critical thinking is one of those things.
I think that after an objective research (which didn’t took much time) through scholar sources is evident that Sitchin´s story is pretty much science fiction, no Annunaki (although this is not the most controversial issue in the whole story), no Nibiru as a planet, no human creation JUST and for the only purpose of digging gold and then there is some extravagant concepts that I am not sure if are part of Sitchin’s story but the idea that the first man was called “Adamu” by the Gods which is crazy because is trying to relate Sumerian/Akkadian language to Hebrew like it were nothing in the middle and this concept is repeated for many people to give validation to the story.
Following Mike links I went to the Oxford site for the translations and after some searches surprisingly enough I found the word NIBRU (not NIBIRU) which was supposedly an important city, there are many references and is the center of many writings and stories.
Then there are other scholar translations which has none of the corner stone concepts of Sitchin’s work.
My humble conclusion is that many Mythological accounts have the story of a “flood” and the creation of man but this is not a proof that the Bible was inspired or copied from the Sumerian texts and to state this is to take the Bible more than superficially and this is a huge understatement.