I recently received this URL from someone asking me to take a look – it’s a site about the NASA cover-up of alien bases on the moon. Familiar conspiracy silliness, new source (for me anyway).
The URL gives me the opportunity to direct readers to a blog that I follow called “The Emoluments of Mars,” written by someone (Expat) who has a deep knowledge of spaceflight, NASA photographs, and photographic analysis.
Basically, “Expat” is the “anti-Hoagland”. He’s intimately familiar with all of what Richard Hoagland, Mike Bara, and Ken Johnston have written and said to prop up the idea of alien base / artificial structures on the moon and Mars. News flash: there are piles of problems with their use/abuse of images, analysis, and thought processes. Since I have no knowledge of such things, Expat’s blog is a wonderful resource to get critical evaluation of these claims. It’s great knowing there are experts in such fields that bother to get involved (akin to my geneticist friend to whom I regularly send “alien DNA” hokum for expert opinion).
I decided to send the URL I received to Expat to see if he’d comment (I did so in the comments to one of his posts). He replied:
No, I hadn’t seen that page before, but I face-palmed as soon as I read this:
“photos revealing artifacts and structures are routinely modified by NASA higher-ups.”
DarkGovernment.com [the source of the photos at the aforementioned URL – MSH] doesn’t know what it’s writing about. As I’ve often mentioned on this blog, all data processing for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is done at the School of Earth and Space Exploration at Arizona State Univ. “NASA high-ups” don’t even get to see it until the processing is done.
Use Google advanced search to pull out everything I’ve written about Ken Johnston, and you’ll read my opinion of him. Someone who claims expertise in NASA photography, and says the blue flare in AS14-66-9301 is a spaceship, IS NOT a reliable source.
So there you go, alien conspiracy fans – take Expat up on the search for a taste of what he does. Better yet, follow his blog!
Let’s not forget John Lear. He says the moon we see is a hologram projected by NASA or the military. It’s there to conceal all the alien activity going on there, which we of course participate in. He also makes thee claims about 9/11–all holograms. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+lear
I guess the Japanese probe that took hi res pics of the moon in order to map the entire surface a couple of years ago was actually photographing Lear’s hologram.
Why is it these people think the only people looking at the moon are Americans? Wouldn’t the Russian have said something at the height of the cold war if we failed to land there or were pulling the wool over the collective eyes of the world about a “secret” space program? Wouldn’t the Russians and Chinese spot our launches and question them? Wouldn’t the European Space agency say, “Hey, something funny is going on here.” You never hear these criticisms.
It’s kind of reminiscent of Sitchin’s 12th planet or the Samael gnostics’ teaching of the red planet they call Hercolobus. No one actually looking at the sky sees these things. Neither Sitchin nor the gnostics can give you astronomical coordinates of where to look and see them. No one can tell show any evidence in the geological or archaeological record of the havoc they wreaked. But some people just keep believing.
Yep; they just keep believing. It defies any sort of rationale analysis.
From Duff’s page: “Hannard claims he received an image from “a source” who, in part, claimed: “China will be releasing [high resolution] images taken by the Chang’e-2 Moon orbiter, which clearly show buildings and structures on the Moon’s surface.
“China will be releasing all the data and images from the Chang’e-2 in the coming weeks and months, lets hope this is the beginning of a new era.”
Yeah, the Japanese just did the same thing in 2007. They even found 5 of the Apollo flags: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/story/2012-07-31/flags-moon-apollo/56613308/1
Will it never stop? How can we do honest scientifice research into ET life and UFOs as long as the lunatic fringe continues to dominate the field of UFO research? And I hate to say this to a big C2C fan: and as long as people like George Noory give a voice to the Richard Hoaglands of the world?
No, it won’t stop. But on shows like C2C – that show has been fair with lots of sides of many issues. Trust me when I tell you that there are shows of that genre where hosts refuse (and have done so for years) to interview me, and others, of course. It’s an outlet, and so is the internet. We wouldn’t want it not to be there just so we wouldn’t have to hear/read certain crazy things.
Yes, Hoagland’s stuff about giant glass structures is nonsense. But Jay Weidner shows how the image irregularities that Hoagland has miscontrued are explained by the way in which Kubrick faked the photographs. I don’t see how anyone can discount the moon landing fakery hypothesis without debunking Weidner’s work or the numerous, painstakingly detailed videos by Jarrah White (they are all on YouTube). Many NASA apologists have tried (White calls them “propagandists”); none has succeeded.
How do you know they haven’t succeeded? You need more than “White’s still saying what he says on the internet” for that.
IMAGES ON THE MOON
I don’t have the time to go round and round about that topic but I call tell you what I believe. Historically speaking ancients knew that what they wrongly called gods occupied the planets in our solar system. Even Jesus and Paul made statements like:
PRINCIPALITIES AND POWERS
“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the the rulers, authorities and cosmic powers that have control over this present days of darkness. The enemy we wrestle against are the spiritual forces (aliens aka dark beings) of evil in the heavenly places.” Eph: 6:12
For me these images look as though there was a time when buildings and activity did take place on the surface of the moon but it appears to have been moved underground and that UFO and alien activities takes place at the dark side of the moon. There does appear to be movement on the surface today, the moon seemed to have change it’s rotation a bit and there are lights that go on and off on the moon as well so I have no trouble believing that these demonic beings occupy what appears to be fabricated space monitoring vehicle (Moon). It may very well be the fact that it was LOCKED IN PLACE and moved into the rotation around our equator as a monitoring station. The moon rang like a bell for almost an hour when it was hit by one our ejected rocket parts, which could be registered on seismographs etc., etc. When you see the same face of the moon all of the time you know SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT IN RIVER CITY. It is also obvious that the moon has taken several major hits (attacks) which also tells me that most of what goes on today is happening inside the moon. I would recommend John Lear on this one.
Ephesians 6 has nothing to do with our going to the moon or the baseless arguments about structures there. If Paul heard you say that he’d likely think you were possessed.
“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the the rulers, authorities and cosmic powers that have control over this present days of darkness. The enemy we wrestle against are the spiritual forces (aliens aka dark beings) of evil in the heavenly places.” Eph: 6:12
This verse is not specific to the moon it applies to heavenly places in general and he was not talking about clouds. I also believe that these heavenly places include other dimensions and dark matter.
Basically I agree. back in July, Noory had Hoagland on as a kind of expert and space consultant to discuss Mars images and exploration which completely misrepresented him. That particular show would have been better with an actual space expert like a planetary scientist, astronomer, image analyst, from NASA or a University, etc., or at least as a counterpoint to RH. I wouldn’t know that if I didn’t listen to C2C also ;-P
It’s too bad those other shows don’t know what they’re missing by keeping you off. Ha! Guess we all suffer from confirmation bias in our own ways whether in scholarship, politics, or our private affairs.
“…the moon seemed to have change it’s rotation a bit and there are lights that go on and off on the moon as well.”
Changed its rotation since when? Certainly not in your lifetime. Here’s a factual reference on Transient Lunar Phenomena:
http://www.astro.columbia.edu/~arlin/TLP/
” When you see the same face of the moon all of the time you know SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT IN RIVER CITY.”
Here’s a factual reference on tidal locking:
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/moon/tidal.html
PLEASE READ the citations I have provided. These are established facts, not conjectures. Thanks.
Thanks for chiming in!
Right now I have no reason to think the moon landings did not happen, but I do admit that Jay Weidner’s Kubrick theory at least interesting. I wonder if anybody has successfully debunked Weidner. I know nothing about photography, so I would not know where to start.
See Expat’s comment here. I’d also check out the PseudoAstronomy blog. I believe they’ve done lengthy podcasts on this issue.
@BUYERS BEWARE
> The moon rang like a bell for almost an hour when it was hit by one our ejected rocket parts, which could be registered on seismographs etc.
The choice of words distorts the facts. Your phrasing makes it seem like the moon made a sound like a bell ringing, therefore the moon is hollow, therefore, artificial. In the quote below from NASA, the actual wording shows the scientists referring to seismic vibrations, not a bell-like sound.
“The S-IVB struck the Moon with a force equivalent to 11 1/2 tons of TNT. It hit 85 miles west northwest of the site where the Apollo 12 astronauts had set up their seismometer. Scientists on Earth said, “the Moon rang like a bell.”
http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/pg15.htm
Like most zealous partisans, you have taken an obvious metaphor and transformed it into a literal fact — distorting evidence to fit your predetermined conclusion.
I could be wrong, of course. You might have simply copied that distortion from a blog without bothering to check it.
excellent comment – and so right (“The choice of words distorts the facts”). If I had a dollar for every time that’s been my experience in all this UFO talk and paleobabble …
MOON RANG LIKE A BELL
Mike,
You are not making sense Mike, what I said is exactly what the scientists said that the “Moon rang like a bell.”
If I were you I would go to this link where John Lear discusses this:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html
It wasn’t my comment, and the comment was clear.
Mike it is hard to know who the comment is from when it comes into my Email in box. it does not always say. Again the comment that I made “It Rang Like A Bell” is accurate. I suggest that who ever sent that comment earlier go to the link that I attached. Again John Lear is the source that I use on the moon primarily.
You must have subscribed to the comments via email; that’s the only point I’m making here. If you did that, you’d get email notifications of comments posted.
SITCHEN’S HYBRID SUMERIAN COPPER BASED AQUATIC BLOODLINE SCAMS
Yes I did decide at one time to have comments from your blog sent to me but when they come to my in box I do not know who they are coming from. I assume that are coming from you unless the note in my inbox says differently.
Say one of the topics that I mention in my writings are the Sumerian Documents. Now I have read the data long enough to realize that Sitchen misinterpreted these documents. It would appear that the Nibiru data is nowhere to be found in any of the tablets. We also have to remember that the hybrid human population that these aliens created in ancient Sumer was not homosapeints. The Sumerian reptilian aliens cloned the human hybrids that rule our world today who carry the copper based aquatic blood anomalies. Now this was done in Atlantis and through out the world but Medo Persia and the Persian Gulf region seems to have been a Mecca for these hybrids. It also appears that these hybrids included the Black Eves. Once you combine all the data around this subject, from different cultures etc. a very different picture begins to unfold. In other words the reptilian or Nordic aliens created the copper based aquatic bloodlines that we know today as the AshkeNAZIM, Sephardic and Merovingian Global Elite New World Order bloodlines of today. Original man existed long before these aliens created their hybrid slave races in the Persian Gulf region. We also have to realize that Sitchen was an AshkeNAZIM, or Sephardic Jew. They have always fabricated their Sumerian history to puff themselves up. I make this comment because some time back I learned that you also disagree with Sitchens take on the data he presents. Once people realize that aliens lie continually and that they lied to these ancient people who believe their lies and thought of them as gods, then what is going on begins to fit into the scam be are being presented with today.
I do not know your exact position on the Sumerian Data but I have spent a great deal of time cross referencing this data with other data in an attempt to find out what was really going on back then. One of the reasons these hybrids were cloned was to adopt (as gospel) and promote these Alien Agenda SCAMS.
Just when you think it can’t get any more bizarre.
@Dr. Heiser
> shows like C2C – that show has been fair with lots of sides of many issues.
Oh, Mike, you are too kind.
On C2C, George Noory told Hoagland he should be named head of NASA! Worse, Noory discussed the CDC with Andrew Wakefield, saying, “Why can’t we get someone like you in there?” This was after Wakefield had been struck from the rolls for fraudulent research practices!
I said he’s been fair, not that he’s made sense. He at least has all sides on (people like me), which is something I can’t say of others.
I AM AN ABSOLUTE FAN OF C2C. GO GEORGE GO
I listen to Coast to Coast AM. I don’t need to believe anything I hear there. It’s entertaining. I’ve heard George Noory say that it’s entertainment. Once in a while when I think an item might be true I do a search on the internet which usually takes me to one of Mike Heiser’s blogs.
Dave Lewis
Made me laugh! There are others besides me that appear occasionally on the show who will tell the truth about this or that.
@BUYERS BEWARE
> it is hard to know who the comment is from
When I respond to a comment, I put @ and the addressee’s name at the head (as I’ve done here) to avoid confusion.
> the comment that I made “It Rang Like A Bell” is accurate.
No, as I have explained.
> John Lear is the source that I use on the moon primarily.
Then you choose to be deceived. Not good practice.
ALIEN PROGRAMMED DATA
Yes I do recommend and agree with John Lear’s data regarding the fact that “The Moon Rang Like A Bell.” If I remember right it was also a NASA report that was leaked on the subject anyway. That being said, what bothers me is that like so many others who are coming forward today regarding underground bases and the secret Star Wars projects is that they all seem to have been mind gamed with data people like Dr. Dan Burisch talk about. It is as if all of those coming forward from these underground bases need to be deprogrammed. I trust a great deal of what they say until they start running the mind gamed programming. David Icke. who was my mentor. also seems to have become a victim of these kinds of downloads by what appears to have been the Nordics. He to has fabulous fabulous information but then he starts to RUN THE PROGRAMMING. These dark other dimensional beings. that we wrongly refer to as aliens. are programming their agenda into these people. You can tell when these people are RUNNING THEIR PROGRAMMING. Again Jesus taught that this is all part of the END TIME DELUSION OF MANKIND that will be so believable and pervasive that even his Elect might buy into it. This is what I am trying to warn people about. BUYERS BEWARE!
@BUYERS BEWARE
> David Icke, who was my mentor
Jack the Ripper, who was my surgeon…
BB, you can’t be real!
you can’t script this stuff.
Addendum of 10/2/2013 – BB replied to you promoting David Icke. I deleted that comment of his since I’m not going to allow anyone to promote Icke on this blog. He’s a nitwit purveyor of theosophical race claptrap (perhaps unknowingly), among other things.