A segment of the debunking appears below. It’s an interview about Hawking’s denial of an actual beginning of the universe by Alister McGrath and Roger Penrose. For those not familiar with either, McGrath has earned doctorates in both molecular biophysics and theology. Penrose is a mathematical physicist and former Oxford faculty colleague of Hawking’s. McGrath is a Christian; Penrose subscribes to no religious view. The full program interview is available here.