[UPDATE, 6/23/2013. Thanks to commenter Voxdoc for the link. The Exopolitics blog of Alfred Webre posted a recent update to the saga described below. It’s an exchange between Alfred and Dr. Jan Bravo, where the latter disputes the former’s use of her name and statements, which are denied therein. Like I said to the commenter, this is what retail ufology is really like – a soap opera or reality show; lots of he said-she said, backbiting, and finger pointing. Basically without any genuine data. If you want to “get into” UFO stuff, this is what you’re looking at for the most part. MSH]
No kidding. Who saw that coming?
These accusations come from people who believe in Greer’s cause and who were part of the team to produce the Sirius documentary. They aren’t coming from people like me, who think very little of this project. The accusations are “a result of a 3-month investigation including core supporters of film, UFO/ET, and New Energy projects headed by Dr. Greer.” To save yourself from being so desperate and lying for money, delete late payments from your credit report and better your financial standing.
This article sketches the affair pretty clearly. It’s written by Alfred Lambremont Webre, a familiar name in ufology (and left-wing politics). I’m not really a fan of Alfred. He tends to say nutty things (and there are a couple in this piece as well). However, he gets some points for integrity on this piece since he’ll get plenty of hate mail for it.1 Here’s the first two sentences of the header portion:
Dr. Greer reportedly improperly “skimmed” project funds for personal real estate and sexual recreation.
Core insiders including Dr. Jan Bravo, Dr. Ted Loder (portrayed as supporters in Sirius) abandoned Dr. Greer prior to premiere. Some “in fear for their lives”.
Read it for yourself.
- Unless, of course, it’s being done out of spite – Alfred was not included in the Citizen Hearing on UFO/ET Disclosure. ↩
Yes I skimmed the article. For me Steven Greere is a mouthpiece for the Alien Agenda. A PUPPET of the PUPPET MASTERS and many are out their doing and saying the same things today.
For me I suspect that he is an alien hybrid “walking among us.” Now we can’t know that for sure but this was the WARNING Jesus gave to his followers. He meant this warning with an EXTENDED WARRENTY that would flow up the line to us today. He wanted us to watch out for the WEEDS that were SOWN WITH THE WHEET in the night when the world was sleeping.
I believe this little creature was a Gray alien. Gray aliens in ancient and prehistoric history have been known as consumet liars. Those who have come into contact with or who are assigned to manage these Grays in underground basis not only have some horrible tales to tell but these people seemed to have bought into the data they receive from these deceivers. To me that is the real danger. Those people who buy into the ‘ALEIN AGENDA” are pawns and they leak this data to the general public as if the data is accurate.
I used to think that Steven Greere was the “Cats Meow,” until he started promoting the data aliens promote. The free energy he promotes is not energy we should be tapping into it is of alien origin. I think that we need to accept the little entity as a Gray but focus our attentions on and be very skeptical about Steven himself. He has been seen with the Grays. I just don’t trust that the truth will surface from people who are programmed puppets.
“He has been seen with the Grays.”
What is your basis for that assertion?
What a shock! but siriusly, maybe he can do some CE5 and the aliens will testify on his behalf. I’m sure it’s a misunderstanding.
That’s bull…t. Greer does things incomprehensible to some idiots, like bringing people together, revealing the truth. What do they do? Slander him.
Hi you guys. Say we have to be careful here. As much as I have been warning people that Greere is promoting the Alien agenda, I also want to remind people that gossip and innuendoes are what the Shadow Government and Military deal in AGAINST those who are trying to expose the existence of aliens. Steven may be a victim of the he said she said gossip mill or smear campaign here. I am not following any of this but all to often people who come forward with this kind of data (existence of aliens) are victims of smear campaigns. So let’s not deal in he said she said gossip regardless of who the target is. We still have to focus our attentions on THE REAL BAD GUYS THAT ARE BEHIND THESE CAMPAIGNS. I am thinking right now of people like Phil Schneider, William Cooper etc., whose lives were destroyed and became murder victims at the hands of the BAD GUYS because they were LETTING THE CAT OUT OF THE BAG.
I’ve listened to Steven Greer on Coast to Coast AM (Disclaimer: I don’t believe anything I hear on C2C but it is frequently interesting science fiction) and he comes across as real jerk!
There is another podcast called The Paracast hosted by Gene Steinberg. Steinberg is well versed in the history of ufology. He called out Greer in a recent podcast.
When I say Steinberg knows a lot about ufology I mean that he knows who proposed hat theory and when.
The people accusing Greer are people from his own organization who are angry at his dishonesty, this is hardly a “smear campaign” since his accusers also believe in ET albeit they have more integrity than Steven Greer.
Greer has been scamming for decades so this revelation is nothing new. Sirius is filled with fake UFO footage too so don’t waste time or money on that “documentary”. The “alien” is nothing but a dried human fetus and Greer knows this to be the case. Ripley had one just the same. He called it Atta Boy because it came from the Atacama area.
FOCUS ON THE MESSAGE NOT THE MESSANGER
Isn’t it time we move on to a new subject. We have all weighed in on this one. Let’s just agree to disagree. To me the specimen is a Gray or Gray human hybrid. The evidence shows this. On the other hand, to me Dr. Steven Greere is a pawn of the Grays and the “Alien Agenda.” He is an example of what happens to people that are being mind gamed by aliens, who are using their subjects to promote their “Alien Agenda.” Many people today who are abduction victims are referring to aliens as our ‘SPACE BROTHERS.” IT IS ALL PART OF THE END TIME DECEPTION OF MANKIND. So let’s think of Greere as a victim and use him as an example of what to look for as the “ALIEN AGENDA” continues to be presented to the general public by these mind gamed victims. Look at the mind games and down loads other victims receive from the “POWERS and PRINCIPALITIES” and realize that mankind is being played here by the DARK SIDE. WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE MESSAGE INSTEAD OF KILLING THE MIND GAMED MESSANGERS.
I have to say from the first time I ever saw Greer I have always thought if anyone ever looked like an ‘alien’ he does!
The only message Greer has for the world is “send me more money”. If you go to his Twitter page – https://twitter.com/DrStevenGreer – you will see he is asking people to donate $ for a free energy lab. He wants $8 million. Not a lot of people know he has done this before. Many years ago he asked for funds to build a SEAS lab (Space Energy Access Systems), then an Orion Project lab. Money was donated but no labs appeared. Greer is now the proud owner of 2 $1 million homes, one in 60 acres of land! Go figure!!
thanks; made me throw up a little.
Webre received a response from Dr. Jan Bravo saying she has not been in touch with him directly or through intermediaries. Makes you wonder how accurate the rest of Webre’s assertions are. See the following with Webre’s answer:
Well, that’s a strike against Alfred. Like I noted in the first post, he doesn’t exactly have a good reputation either.
For all those reading THIS is what “retail ufology” is really like. Forget the noble truth-seeker idea (very few of those). Think of a soap opera or reality show set at a UFO conference. (Kind of like the movie “Best of Show” but for UFO stuff).
Lets move on to a new subject. The data above re Greere sounds like a disgruntled employee venting anger over who knows what. This has turned into a gossip he said she said matter that has little relevance to the price of tea in China. It’s the old “If you don’t like the message then kill the messenger” mentality.
Mr. Steven Greer claims to have access to all kinds of secret information but never has showed anything that would not have been available through other channels. This is curious because in his Disclosure 8 May 2001 Press Project, he suggests to have access to people with the real gen. Still, in 12 more years, he has not been able to come up with anything of interest at all. These two facts are contradictory.
1. Everybody talks about “the Greys” but, if the alien experts of 8 May 2001 are to be believed, they are unimportant and a very minor group compared to the others. Yet, all attention is put on them. This looks like a misinformation campaign. Greer does not come up with anything serious in this respect. (And of course, all nuthouses and 17-year olds buy this and now think “aliens=greys”. Utter baloney.)
2. It is suggested that the technology for flying saucers is known (Tesla coils, etc.). Mr. Greer knows the people who are in the know, yet fails to come up with any pertinent data in this field.
If he does not have data and he says so, that would be perfectly all right, and he would become an authority for only a real authority knows what he does not know. But the opposite is the case. He says he has it but does not show it.
In view of this, his Sirius Project is, in my opinion, a colossal Public Relations gaffe (blunder) because it destroyed most of the authority he had, if any. As David Ogilvy noted, “The right to speak must be earned by having something to say.” If Mr. Greer has real gen, let him say it. If not, let him stay silent.
(All this is my conclusion from having studied his site and ‘disclosures’. I have had no direct contact with Mr. Greer.)
agreed; it’s a data-starved set of ideas put forth to keep this guy’s lifestyle intact.
Let be honest,0 energy is a scam,it is pseudoscience as of 2015,anybody collecting money for research is scamming people.Hes been caught in numerous lies,supposed meeting with CIA,presidents committee, etc,we know these meetings never took place.Period.
0 energy is pseudoscience as of 2015 anybody and everybody should of known that.Its a scam,plain and simple.