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One of the readers of PaleoBabble recently asked me to take a look at some of the claims of Jordan Maxwell. I’d heard of Maxwell before, but had never really taken much of an interest in his work (presented on his website), mostly because it was hard to navigate. I’ve given it more of a look now and it seems I’ve been directed to yet another treasure trove of PaleoBabble.
One of Maxwell’s claims is that the name “Israel” derives from three deity names: Isis-Ra-El. This is utter nonsense for two basic reasons: (1) The Bible itself points to a derivation (there is more than one possibility, none of which are anything near to what Maxwell says), and (2) Hebrew and Egyptian come from different language families (one Semitic, the other Afro-Asiatic), and so the syllables in the Hebrew word “Israel” do not line up phonetically to the Egyptian words “Isis” and “Ra”, thus marring Maxwell’s analysis (hate to call it an analysis really).
1. The Old Testament vs. Maxwell
Let’s start with the first reason – the one that Maxwell utterly ignores. What a surprise. Those readers familiar with the Old Testament patriarch stories will likely recall that the name “Israel” was given to the patriarch Jacob after he wrestled with a divine being. Jacob’s name was changed to Israel, and hence Jacob’s twelve sons became known as the twelve tribes of ISRAEL. Anyone who has actually read that Old Testament story (Genesis 32) knows that when the name of Jacob is changed, an explanation is given. Here’s the passage:
22 The same night he arose and took his two wives, his two female servants, and his eleven children, and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 He took them and sent them across the stream, and everything else that he had. 24 And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25 When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched his hip socket, and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him. 26 Then he said, “Let me go, for the day has broken.” But Jacob said, ”I will not let you go unless you bless me.” 27 And he said to him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Jacob.” 28 Then he said, ”Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29 Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, ”Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30 So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel, saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.” 31 The sun rose upon him as he passed Penuel, limping because of his hip. 32 Therefore to this day the people of Israel do not eat the sinew of the thigh that is on the hip socket, because he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip on the sinew of the thigh.
According to Genesis 32:28, the name “Israel” (ישׂר×ל) is connected somehow to the idea of “struggling.” As a result, many Hebrew scholars relates “Israel” to the verb שׂרה (sarah; “to struggle, fight”; note the similar consonants – the last of which would drop off if another element is added). This would mean that “Israel” (if it comes from this verb root) literally means either “El (God) fights” (presumably for his people), or “he fights (with) El (God).” The point could also be wordplay – “God fights” in a passage where Jacob us fighting with God. The former option follows predominant Hebrew word order for predicate + subject, but the narrative in Gen 32 favors the latter. There is another option, though. Other scholars think “Israel” comes not from verb שׂרה (sarah; “to struggle, fight”) but from the verb שׂרר (sarar; “to rule, be strong”). In this case the name would mean “El (God) is strong” and would likely point to Jacob being subdued by the embodied God in the Genesis 32 story. A third option is that the proper root is יש×ר (yasar; “just, right”), and so the meaning would be something like “El (God) is just.” In favor of this third option is the alternate word for Israel found in the Old Testament, Jeshurun (y-s-r-n) in Deut 32:15; 33:5, 26.
At any rate, Jacob’s old name recalled his past underhand dealings (“Jacob” means “supplanting” – and it was Jacob who stole his brother Esau’s birthright; it can also mean “deception” and the narratives of Jacob’s life give abundant testimony to this character flaw of his). His new name, Israel, recalled this incident in which he wrestled with God and prevailed with a blessing.
The point here is that the Old Testament telegraphs what Jacob’s name means according to three semantically similar Hebrew options / roots. Think of that – interpreting a Hebrew name with Hebrew! That’s just too boring for Jordan Maxwell. Why read the biblical story associated with the name “Israel” when we can just make up something cooler? That brings us to Maxwell’s second problem.
2. Egyptian and Semitic Language / Linguistics vs. Maxwell
Just as I’d bet that Maxwell counts on his followers not knowing the Genesis 32 story and its own explanation of the name “Israel,” I’m betting Maxwell knows nothing of Egyptian or Hebrew or Semitic languages. I’d also bet he doesn’t care, since his real agenda is creating some sort of link between Israelite religion and Egyptian mystery religion. When that’s your goal, who cares about boring facts about language.
One sidebar note before we get to the material. Maxwell is apparently from the William Henry school of determining word meanings by dicing, slicing, and splicing syllables of words. If a sound of one word sounds like a word in another language, there MUST be a connection! This is crap. The human mouth is only capable of making a finite number of sounds (this is what phonology is concerned with, a sub-discipline of linguistics). Since there are only a finite number of sounds a human can make with tongue, lips, teeth, throat, cleft palate, and nasal passages, it is no surprise that humans all over the world make the same sounds. What else would they make? But human people groups assembled and inflect those sounds in specific and divergent ways. People who are in close proximity geographically will often share how sounds are put together – hence we get “language families” like “Semitic.” The languages in that family share certain features. But people groups who have no proximity put the sounds together quite differently. The result is that the three sounds (two consonants and a vowel) in “bat” in English (an Indo-European language) mean “flying rodent” or “stick you hit a baseball with” while in Hebrew “bat” means something quite different (“daughter”). Unless you’re William Henry, that is. Or Jordan Maxwell.
First, it should be apparent from the discussion in #1 above that Maxwell does get one syllable right – the last one (“el”). Hard to mess that up. But the more important ones are the first two, since they are the Egyptian elements to his agenda.
In the world of Maxwell the first syllable in “Israel” (“is” or “yis”) must come from “Isis”. Why? Because they sound the same. Yeah, they sound the same IN ENGLISH! Unfortunately for Maxwell, the Egyptians didn’t write or speak English. “Isis” was not the way the Egyptians pronounced the name of this goddess. That pronunciation comes from Greek and Coptic, languages that came into the biblical world centuries after Hebrew. The Egyptian pronunciation of the name of this goddess was something like “Waset” or “Awset.” No resemblance to “is” or “yis”. Here’s how “Isis” is spelled in hieroglyphs:
Starting at the lefthand side, the first glyph (a throne; Gardner sign Q1) is pronounced “ws” or “as” or “aws” depending on which Egyptologist or grammar you’ll pick up. If you want a detailed linguistic description of the pronunciation issues and development, see A. Loprieno’s linguistic introduction to Egyptian. The next glyph at the top is the “t” sound. The other two are determinatives and are unpronounced. The final determinative (female) denotes this is a goddess.
The point: the first syllable of Israel does not correspond to “Awset.” One down, one to go.
The second syllable in “Israel” (ישׂר×ל) also requires a bit of unpacking. In Hebrew, we have the first syllable ישׂ (yis), and the next syllable is ×¨× (rʾ in transliteration – I’ll get to what that apostrophe mark means in a moment). The aleph letter (×) is also shared by the last syllable – ×ל (ʾl). The second syllable (ר×) is composed of the Hebrew “r” plus the Hebrew aleph (ʾ). What is the apostrophe? That is the English character that denotes A SILENT LETTER. That’s right, aleph is silent. What this means is that these two consonants by themselves are not pronounced “ra” (though they can be). But that’s a minor issue. More important is that in Egyptian, the deity name “Ra” is NOT spelled with the Egyptian aleph (falcon). It’s spelled with the sun disk sign and the arm sign (when spelled phonetically). Therefore, this “equivalence” is also marred. But even more damning to Maxwell’s idea is the fact that the name “Ra” is actually present in the Hebrew Bible, so we know how the Hebrews would have spelled it! Is “Ra” in Hebrew letters ר×? Nope. It’s רע, and so it cannot be part of the name “Israel”. Where in the Hebrew Bible do we find the name “Ra”? Just where you’d expect it – it’s part of an Egyptian Pharaoh’s name in Jeremiah 44:30 –
Thus says the Lord, Behold, I will give Pharaoh Hophra king of Egypt into the hand of his enemies . . .
The name Hophra is the combination of the familiar “hepher” (“khepher” – the verb formed by the sign of the dung beetle which means “to become”) + “Ra” – and so the name Hophra means “he becomes Ra” (no surprise there with respect to Egyptian religion). And so how is Hophra spelled in Jeremiah 44:30 in Hebrew? חפרע (note the red underlined portion – it’s רע not ר×). Maxwell is 0-for-2. His contention is bogus, and so any claims he makes on its basis are equally bogus.
Oh Mike! I’m sooo glad you found Jordan Maxwell…you will have so much fun with him, and there is sooooo much to dissect! hee hee hee He is a hoot, and he does stuff like you pointed out all the time! I downloaded a podcast where some guy goes through some of his arguments and Maxwell takes current language and twists it and puts it in the past to make his points! I have one for you…Maxwell IS right…there is a link between the Egyptians and Israelites just like he says…here’s how it goes….Genesis is REALLY about the generations of Isis! Get it! “gen” + “Isis”= GENeSIS…see, see! I can do it too!!! I have to go, I need to go set up my new website….roflmao
According to Tour egypt sight the Festvile of this godess was at the being of the year with these titles “season of the year she was called Khut, as the mighty earth-goddess her name was Usert, as the Great Goddess of the Underworld she was Thenenet, as the power which shot forth the Nile flood she was Sati, and sept, as the embracer of the land and producer of fertility by her waters she was Anqet, as the producer and giver of life she was Ankhet, as the goddess of cultivated lands and fields she was Sekhet, as the goddess of the harvest she was Renenet, as the goddess of food which was offered to the gods she was Tcheft, and lived int he Temple of Tchefau, and as the great lady of the Underworld, who assisted in transforming the bodies of the blessed dead into those whrein they were to live in the realm of Osiris, her name was Ament, i.e., the hidden goddess.” Not one in primary Egyptian documents is a direct equvilant of Isis. Yet with all the Hebrew terms Maxwell uses can not it be said that the would have only a inderect concetion in any case since hebrew is northwest semtic qnd Egyptian is conceted through the larger Hamito-semtic group?
Thanks Mike, we’re lucky to have someone like you who can cut through the crap.
You asked me to let you know if I found more examples of Jordan Maxwell professing an expertise in the OT scriptures. I’m currently watching a video of his analysis of the creation story and the whole Sons of God thing. He might just be parroting Sitchin since he leads in saying he’s spent a long time talking to his friend Zecharia Sitchin about this stuff but I don’t really know; I don’t follow Sitchin closely enough to be intimate with his worldview.
Anyway, I’m still going through it but I thought I’d at least point out one entertaining bit around the 0:30 minute mark where, using his (?) expert skills in ancient Hebrew, he corrects a mistranslation in Genesis 1:2 where, according to him (or whoever’s interpeting for him), it should read “the earth became a waste and a desolation” instead of “the earth was without form and void”.
Anyway, not sure if it piques your interest but here’s the google video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8431552640288551100&q=jordan+maxwell&ei=kGCSSO3ROpPm-wHamNmPCA
@Catherine_B1: I’m impressed; now you can graduate to William Henry!
@redadam: I’m not sure I follow the question. You are correct about the two separate language groups. Can you reword this for me so I follow better?
@Matt…: Interesting … he is taking the language of the “Gap Theory” for Gen 1:2. This is a common view in Christian circles, but I know of no Hebrew grammarian who gives if the time of day. I addressed the Gap Theory in my PDF file on Genesis 1:1-3 (available on my website). I may or may not reference it here. (So much else to cover).
one more followup question regarding pronunciation of heiroglyphics. As I understood it, both the meaning and pronunciation of heiroglyphics were completely and totally lost for hundreds of years until Champollion’s Rosetta Stone breakthrough. So it’s clear how we understand what the symbols mean but I’m not so clear on how scholars derived their pronunciation, unless some phonetic equivalence between coptic and heiroglyphics is assumed.
@Matt…: Not so. Yes, the pronunciation of ancient Egyptian was lost to Europeans until Champollion, but it was not lost to other ancient cultures whose material survives and which tells us in great (not perfect) detail how Egyptian was pronounced. This material has come to light and been thoroughly studied since the time of the famous Frenchman. There are basically four sources (this is a summary drawn from Loprieno’s Ancient Egyptian: A Linguistic Introduction):
1. Comparative Afro-Asiatic linguistics: etymological equivalents between ancient Egyptian words and other Afro-Asiatic words of the same consonantal “root†(that have a known vocalized history) can be established which helps understand pronunciation of Egyptian.
2. Contemporary transcriptions in foreign languages: Many Akkadian texts, for example (especially Amarna) contain Egyptian words and phrase in cuneiform transcription. Akkadian was vocalized (it included vowel sounds, unlike Egyptian), and so these provide a great deal of insight for pronouncing Egyptian.
3. Egyptian renderings of foreign words, especially Northwest Semitic words (Hebrew is in the NWS branch of Semitic): When Egyptian uses NWS vocabulary, we can see how an Egyptian heard things and the correspondences he or she drew between the languages.
4. The evidence provided by Coptic: Coptic was a language invented while Egyptian was still being written and spoken. The Greek alphabet was used (and a few letters were invented and added) to represent the sounds of Egyptian – and Coptic was born! There is a lot of Coptic material around, and it is all vocalized. It is of great assistance to figuring out what Egyptian sounded like.
It’s not perfect, but we’re a whole lot better off in this area than you’d think.
“He is taking the language of the “Gap Theory†for Gen 1:2. This is a common view in Christian circles, but I know of no Hebrew grammarian who gives if the time of day. I addressed the Gap Theory in my PDF file on Genesis 1:1-3 (available on my website). I may or may not reference it here. (So much else to cover).”
Mike, went to your website ( I am a “subscriber” btw) and I can’t find this pdf file. I don’t see any kind of link or anything for it. I would like to read this, because I kind of liked the gap theory, and have heard of it from other references besides just Maxwell, so I’d like to know what your dissection is of this passage…could you help me find this or post a link to it by any chance? Dake’s Anotated Bible mentions the gap theory, and he seemed credible to me, so now my curiosity is piqued….
@Catherine_B1: I sell it in my bookstore. I’ll email you a copy.
Mike, Have you written anything on Acharya S/DM Murdoch’s books? She was involved with Zeitgeist Part 1—which you would love if you haven’t seen it (“love” in a buffet-of-paleobabble sense).
Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_9ZyddjaM4
In the same vein as Is-ra-el, have you heard these:
“Solomon” is the combining of the three names of the sun, Sol-om-on.
“Jesus Christ” was invented by the Council of Nicaea combining Zeus and Krishna.
Amen in the Bible is actually the sun god Amon-Ra—ergo, Christians are praying to the sun god.
The word “gospel” is actually God’s spell.
Hello Mike, Hello Catherine_B1– Regarding Jordan Maxwell’s “word art”: I’d like to thank you Mike, for taking on this gentleman’s, shall we say “unique” approach to OT history and Catherine, for your awesome rendition of comprehending the “GENeSIS Egyptian Generations”! If I have “grokked” the JM style correctly here then is my humble attempt at “Maxwellizing” a portion of Jeremiah 44:30: according to Mike’s studies the Egyptian name “Ra” can be found in the name “Hophra”, as in the “Pharaoh Hophra”. In the Maxwellizing process all words are fair game. Under closer scrutiny we note that the name “Hophra” has been cleverly reverse-engineered forming the word/title “Pharaoh”, utilizing the vowel option of an additional “a”. This fascinating discovery should supply ample proof in support of the ancient Egyptian belief that all Pharaoh’s were divine incarnations of Ra! (I tried…)
@OJA: Boy, this is truly craptastic. So, the LATIN word for sun is somehow part of a HEBREW name … huh? There are no occurrences of “Jesus” (Ιησους) and “Christos” (ΧÏιστος) prior to A.D. 325 (I guess all those uncial and papyri manuscripts around the world of the Greek NT are forgeries, right?). And the root aleph-mem-nun (‘mn; “amen”), which is HEBREW/Semitic somehow matches the Egyptian? Hmmm. Bummer, but the name “Amon” is actually present in the Hebrew Bible. Those silly Hebrew scribes spell it ONLY with a long “o” vowel (“Amon”; ×מון), but they forgot to put the o-vowel in when using those consonants for the verb “to be firm, reliable, faithful”). Those wacky guys! All the while Hebrew scholars and rabbis throughout the centuries thought the scribes meant to write “amen” (“may it be firm” / “may it be trustworthy”), the scribes were *really* writing the noun “Amon”! How clever – they took out the extra CONSONANT in the word Amon (which functioned as the o-vowel before the medieval vowel system was invented) to disguise Amon in these other places! Gosh … wouldn’t it be cool to go through the Hebrew Bible and put the *real” word back in there? So, when Joseph tells his brothers to bring back Benjamin their youngest brother so he would know their words were “true” (Hebrew: amen), he was *really* saying “then I’ll know your words were Amon.” Makes so much sense. That would clear up soooo many passages. Thanks!
@Debra: nice job – the Egyptians would have had so much more fun with that method than just telling us they believed the pharaohs were Ra incarnate!
Debra~ you’re a hoot!!!
Isis wasn’t the way that the Egyptians pronounced their goddess, but it is probably close. The final “s” in Isis was added by the Greeks. No one knows the original Egyptian pronunciation, because they didn’t use vowels in their writing. Some Egyptologists believe that the pronunciation was “ee-sat”. As for the other Egyptian gods, such as Ra, they can be pronounced in a myriad of ways simply because of the aforementioned lack of vowels. Amen-Ra, Imon-Ro, Uman-Ru, etc would all seem to be acceptable English interpretations. Again, no one actually knows the original pronunciation of these terms.
@Boobs: The pronunciation, as noted in the post, was likely something like “Waset” – it certainly ended with a “t” since that is the feminine ending for singular nouns in Egyptian. The “Wa” part comes from comparative use of the same glyphs on more common words. For a linguistic discussion of all this (it’s technical, believe me), see A. Loprieno, Ancient Egyptian: A Linguistic Introduction (Cambridge, 1995).
Having taken the JM ride in free-fall for a while, I can tell you that his only points throughout is to convince people that politicians are often insincere and act in their own best interests in deference to the public good; that Royalty and totalitarian leaders are often power-hungry and believe they’re better than the masses of ‘common folk’; that bankers can be greedy and conspire to hold or increase their wealth by any means necessary; that all religion stems from astrology; that he (JM) is very smart and his family is important in the grand conspiracy between all of the above and Jewish leadership; and, above all, that he should have a movie career or, at least, a TV career. He will naturally lead one to Acharya S., Michael Tsarian, comic-book heroes (I’m not kidding), and, of course David Icke (whom JM introduced to the rest of the English world.) Truly craptastic…
You should hear his “the Isrealites being part of a magic mushroom cult theory”
He believes that the manna in the desert were magic mushrooms and the Isrealites were getting high in the desert.
@kjgkjg1978: truly craptastic!
Some one has actually suggested that the word Israel is somehow connected or derived from the Egyptian God OSIRIS. This person claims that the word Israel comes from Yashar Ahla meaning the “people (Ahla)” of “Yashar (Aashar/Aasar (Ausar/Orisir). Does this have any merit?
no – it’s garbage that only someone with zero knowledge of these languages (like Jordan Maxwell) would offer as an argument. See the link below:
http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2008/07/syllabic-silliness-with-jordan-maxwell/
Complementary to MSH, I think I must have got this from one of this blog links: It is said that when the semitic languages evolved from cuniform, Egypt kept apart with its own language/writings. it effectively continued to codify their language, this mainly to protect their culture from other influence. By comparison, the Egyptian code and language was so difficult and at the same time so primitive, it go abandoned to make place to more advanced languages..
Opps i fogot the point I wanted to make.. comparing the two languages is like comparing a horse to a new car.
loco comprate una vida y no lo jodas tanto al pobre de maxwell…los amigos lo deben etiqutetar en el face en todo lo que escribis jajaja abrazo maquina
Esto no era inteligente. Eres un imbécil, y que está ahora bloqueado, ya que no se puede hablar de forma inteligente sin utilizar malas palabras.
thank you for this. i thought you may also find this person interesting to dissect, expose, debunk the silly nonsense of their claims…
http://www.youtube.com/user/Truthiracy1
they have truly studied waaayyy too much ‘Maxwell’
I’ll have a look.