The anomalous nature of me being on Coast to Coast AM discussing this topic will make sense once you hear the date. I’ve blogged here in the past (at length) about how an obsession with prophecy is a waste of time — and I stand by that. So who better to discuss apocalypticism and popular end times weirdness than yours truly?
The folks at Coast to Coast AM have scheduled me for the show the night of Thursday, December 20, the night before the world ends. A nice touch, and I thank them for both their generosity and timing. I haven’t checked this for accuracy (just like popular prophecy teachers), but I think this is either my 21st or 22nd appearance on the show . . . 21? the day the world ends . . . 22? the first day of the new age? . . . spooky. Where’s Jonathan Cahn when I need him to make sense of it all?
We’ll be chatting about the Mayan Doomsday hype (just in time), millennialism, and assorted other beliefs related to end times, including the odd sorts of things popular Christian writers make piles of cash on (what another blog termed “fearporn”). Should be fun!
In many ways, this sounds like a relationship of trust you’ve built with the show’s producers that is paying off. They could have picked just about anyone (yahoo wise) to go on the show…and they chose someone who will be a straight-shooter in terms of truth and accuracy.
Should be a fairly exciting show, looking forward to hearing it!
hope it goes well! thanks.
(slightly off topic) I first heard about Jonathan Cahn when I was talking with a guy in the comments section of a video on youtube for a video where you’re talking about Rev 12 and astral prophecy. I found that I already knew some of Cahn’s stuff from another source and I’d like to get your take on one of the specifics. Though I’m not familiar with the Harbinger book other than having heard it maligned by several bloggers whose opinions I value, there is one thing the guy dug up that gives me some pause. John Edwards and Tom Daschle quoted Isaiah 9:10 in response to whatever happened on 9/11/01 and one of the obvious problems is that Isaiah 9:10 in spoken by the obliviously defiant people of Israel and Samaria, so when it comes to quoting the bible, they’re doing it wrong, but things get a bit more weird. I dug up a short article on it that you can read here…
It outlines some weird coincidences, a few of which I have trouble ignoring, though a few others are super-flimsy. I realize that admitting this sort of bible-bending into the fore is a recipe for hermeneutical chaos and nonsense, but it also reminds me of the elusive methods by which NT authors used the OT, in that they reinterpreted parts of the OT it in light of recent events (all that Jesus stuff) with seemingly little care about the original context. Now when one considers the information you’ve laid out about 9/11, Rev 12 and Jesus this all tends to raise some alarm bells for me. I just wanted to get your take on this stuff, but be gentle!
Good luck on c2c.
I think very little of Cahn’s work in The Harbinger. In case you hadn’t read the post on this blog, here it is:
Ya…I read this after I posted. I think the thing that makes it strange for me is that Cahn wasn’t the one that brought Isaiah 9:10 into the mix, it was Edwards and Daschle.
Understood; they aren’t biblically literate either.
I have a question id like to ask who created who did the aliens create jesus and god to control mankind or did god create the aliens I cant get a straight anser.
Stuff like this should be posted over at UFO Religions, but I’ll answer here. If aliens exist (no proof for that so far as I know) they would be created by God. Only God (and in NT theology, that includes Jesus, as there is a godhead) is uncreated; everything else is created. The NT describes Jesus as the “agent” of God’s creative activity (e.g., John 1:3; Colossians 1:16).
At one point during the show you referenced “The Pleiades, the Flood, and the Jewish New Year” by Ellen Robbins. I found a copy and read through it, but now I can’t remember the context of why you mentioned it. Please help!
Her essay is dense, as you know, but the point of reference is that Tishri one was considered the birth date of Noah using the oldest calendar + the flood chronology. That date is significant given Ernest Martin’s astronomical dating of the birth of Jesus to Sept 11, 3 BC (it is the ONLY date that simultaneously aligns with the marks of Rev 12 — taking that as astral prophecy genre, as I do — and satisfies the “activity” of the star (retrograde motion), and aligns with Greco-Roman royal birth astral symbolism AND — here’s the point — coincides with Tishri 1, the beginning date of the new year and the year that was used to mark the inauguration of a new king’s reign.
There are other things that it satisfies, but you get the point (and yes, Martin did a lot of work reconciling all that with the death of Herod — the 4 BC date for that is NOT the only possibility).
The idea, then, is that, per Jewish tradition for Noah, Jesus and Noah had the same birth day (Tishri 1), which conceptually links the events of the flood with the inauguration of the kingdom at the incarnation.
Do you happen to have a link for this essay? Sounds interesting!
The Ellen Robbins/Pleiades/Flood/Jewish New Year one (described in the response directly above on the web page).