One-Question Survey about Angels

5 Comments

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   billy reuben on September 6, 2017 at 6:14 pm

   Posted my comment to the survey, but I’ll duplicate it here as well:

   My biggest peeve regarding angels is how it is often presumptuously taught in spiritual warfare circles to “pray for God to send angels” to do this, that, and the other. Or worse, directly commanding angels in prayer to go bind or loose this or that, etc. I have never been comfortable with this concept. We are to come boldly to the throne of grace and make our supplications known to the Father directly through Jesus our High Priest. The means by which the Father chooses to answer those prayers is His business. Praying that He use angels in a specific manner amounts to telling God how to do His business. And issuing direct commands to angels is getting too close to divination for my comfort. This is not to bash spiritual warfare or prayer as a spiritual weapon. In fact, if the Holy Spirit leads you to say certain things in prayer regarding the assignment of angels, then you say exactly what He leads you to say. But that is God making that choice about how to do His business, which is different than us presuming to pray such things without His prompting as a matter of doctrine, which is how this is too often taught.

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     Vivian Oberon on October 28, 2017 at 9:58 pm

     I think it’s arrogant and dumb for folks to think they can command angels to do their bidding. We don’t really know what they are, what their agenda is and why would they drop everything and run around every time a human being snaps their fingers, that’s crazy. Also, we don’t know if something else may show up pretending to be an angel. I think even considering that angels would do what we want seems silly.

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   Steve Dinkowitz on September 15, 2017 at 12:08 pm

   While listening to “Live at Lubbock” podcast I was stunned by a comment made by one of the questioners, during dialog about angelic atonement: “Questioner: So there is no atonement for them—they must remain holy,
   essentially?” Mike apparently missed this, going on to conclude by discussing the rebels. But that comment hung in the air. I wonder how it is that so many angels have apparently “remained holy, essentially” for thousands of years, and I wonder if this upcoming book about angels addresses this, to me, interesting phenomenon.

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     mheiser on September 30, 2017 at 4:38 pm

     Good catch; I don’t even recall it. Anyway, I don’t believe angels “must” remain holy. I cover that in a book I just handed in to Lexham (on angels). I don’t know when it will be published.

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       Steve Dinkowitz on October 1, 2017 at 6:47 pm

       I don’t think the questioner was using “must” as an imperative; to me it felt more like an indicative, as in “If they didn’t rebel, they must have remained loyal”.
       I will certainly purchase the angel book when it is published; I’ve thoroughly enjoyed Unseen, Hermon, and Facade.
       I believe your work is impacting the Church in a positive way.