I’m nearly finished with the book by David McCullough, The Path Between the Seas: The Creation of the Panama Canal, 1870-1914. I don’t ever want to hear any such nonsensical statement again about how the Great Pyramid is beyond modern reach. Ever. To not laugh when I hear it would be to suffer a fool, and that wasn’t my strong suit before I read the book.
Just one statistic will suffice for this post. It has been estimated that, if the Great Pyramid were built today it would require 3 million cubic yards of concrete. Sounds like a lot, doesn’t it? A drop in the bucket compared to the Panama Canal.
In just the American phase of the construction (1903-1914) a total of 238,845,587 cubic yards were excavated. In 1907, men were moving 1,000,000 cubic yards every month. Three million cubic yards pales in comparison. It would have been a vacation for the tens of thousands of men working in Panama. And the cubic yardage doesn’t even begin to describe the engineering logistics and obstacles, not to mention this was all done through waves of malaria and yellow fever.It’s truly a colossal feat of engineering.
But, Mike, you say, it’s not a fair comparison. The people building the canal had machines like steam shovels and trains. Uh … that’s my point. We *could* build the Great Pyramid today and it wouldn’t require aliens, just like it didn’t back in ancient Egypt. As impressive as the Great Pyramid is, its engineering problems are known and solvable. Sure, a couple of dim-witted scientists in a NOVA television special weren’t up to the task — which only shows they weren’t up to the task. Engineers like Jean Pierre Houdin have articulated in great (and coherent) detail how the pyramid could have been built without modern machinery. Other engineers (namely Davidovits and Barsoum) have proposed that the pyramid blocks were fabricated ancient concrete. Scholars of Egyptian engineering are well informed in Egyptian construction methods, including the pyramids.
And isn’t it odd how ancient astronaut theorists never seem to talk about the failed pyramid projects, like the pyramid of Huni (the Meidum collapsed pyramid), built during the reign of Sneferu, the father of Khufu? Maybe the aliens were on vacation for that one. And also the Bent Pyramid . . . and the Step Pyramid of Djoser, which was built in stages after altering the non-pyramid burial mastaba style. These are all examples of human engineering — the Egyptians learned how to build pyramids gradually, trying new techniques and learning from failures. Pyramid engineering evolved through various transitions. The pyramids themselves demonstrate this quite clearly. To say they needed alien help is just insulting.
Frankly, if aliens were involved in building the pyramids why didn’t they come up with something more impressive given advance intergalactic travel? Why doesn’t the archaeology of Egypt resemble Coruscant :D?
I hear you.
I think many folks assume the theory of evolution is absolute fact in all regards, so they “need” an alien mind that is above ours to understand mankind’s ability to think and produce like this many thousands of years ago.
I don’t. I assume God gave us a high level of intellect and information from day 1 even if we did evolve from a pre cursor. If evolution happened, it happened a little different than the scholastic folks think, IMO.
Weren’t the the blocks really big and heavy and solid? First time i’ve herd they are concrete. Surely there is a way to distinguish rock from concrete, no?
Concrete is one theory, or one component in a suite of theories about the pyramids. Yes, one can tell easily if a block could be made of ingredients like concrete or is whole stone.
Ah, but you forget the revisionist’s prerogative to claim whatever they like. The explanation I heard from one mouthpiece or another was that all those ‘failed’ pyramids were actually built after the Great Pyramid, in man’s pathetic attempt to mirror the works of the gods. Might’ve been season one of Ancient Aliens (the only season I could stomach).
of course; how careless of me!
If you haven’t seen this yet, you may get a chuckle from it:
it’s getting to that level over at the Fantasy Channel.
I’m relatively new at this paleobabble stuff, but I didn’t think the argument was that we couldn’t build the pyramids with today’s technology. Rather, I understood that reasonably knowledgeable people who tried to build something similar with what we presume to be the ancients’ level of technology were unsuccessful. Is that right?
A lot of people presume that things like the pyramids “couldn’t be done” today (listening to just a few hours of shows like ancient aliens will make that clear). That of course isn’t a view shared by all, but it’s out there.
Here’s a man who can move huge heavy stones by himself using ancient technology. http://www.theforgottentechnology.com/
No need for aliens!
yep; I have blogged here about Wally Wallington before. I show his DVD in my Egyptology class.
That proves nothing at all..It certainly doesn’t account for the massive logistical efforts required..I heard Barsoum on C2C and frankly, Christopher Dunn makes his (Barsoum’s) theory look second rate..I am open minded about all things and I do not trap myself into any system of dogmatic belief, but to look at Wallington’s theory and say “yep by golly that’s how those Egyptians did it”, is ridiculous! It is just another theory…You all seem to buy it in here though, hey lol..
Until Christoper Dunn submits his own views to peer review, he can’t claim to be better than anyone, or right, or to have stumped anyone. Maybe you can get him to submit his work to a refereed journal. Surely he’s not afraid to do that (but I have to wonder why he hasn’t done it).
And try to read more clearly. I didn’t say Wallington’s approach was the only thing used by Egyptians, or that Egyptians even used it. I said it shows one possible method by which these sorts of achievements can be explained.
I’m the one laughing now, since anyone can go back and read the posts and my replies to comments, and so see that you’ve mis-characterized what I said. Nice try.
I have read a book that make you feel you know nothing, it’s called My BIG TOE by Thomas Campbell it may also humble you and expand your awareness. I would like to thank you though for conducting your existesive work on stichins lies consider this recommendation what you will
Lots of thinks and opinions.
Don’t attempt to speak for everyone, and don’t assume to know what you ‘believe’ while casting stones made by your opinions/beliefs of what other people MAY believe.
I don’t pretend to know what other people know.
I also don’t pretend to believe what other people believe.
Either way, it’s belief. No offense, I’m pointing out the obvious here.
What do I believe? Try not to assume…
I do know this Annunaki alien stuff is junk. That’s not a belief or an opinion.
GREAT video, thanks!
Most people don’t like to read anymore, now they can SEE;) I will use this video. Thumbs UP!
We have trucks capable of carrying 400 tons, the largest stone weighs ~80 tons.
We have mountable cranes able to lift 100 tons up to 100 meters.
We have flotable cranes able to lift 3,000 tons.
We have lasers, energy shields, hydraulics.
We can build a pyramid, 73% more accurate, with only 1% of the men force and in half the “supposed” time (10 years).
It’ll be done just like how the cargo ships are filled. Guy in the crane pilling rocks . . .
People forget what the Pyramid is, it’s just rock over rock over rock- no concrete-.
It’ll just take some megalomaniac with enough money to build it.
I’m sick of tired of pseudo-scientist claiming we can’t re-build the pyramids.
Looking at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a4VeaEvRM8#t=6m , the hypothesis the Great Pyramid could have been built with concrete hardly seems credible. Needless to say, the ‘aliens did it’ hypothesis is far more ridiculous.
I don’t know of anyone who would say it was built *entirely* of concrete, but the idea that some blocks could have been fabricated has been validated by chemical engineers (but whether it was really employed is a separate issue).
More up to date research accepts that the pyramids were built by humans. Using modern measuring equipment to analyse the stone quarries shows that the cutting and drilling equipment used to build the pyramids was superior to that being used today. A good example of this is after analysing trepanned holes in river bed granite that was used in the construction of the Giza complex shows that the tool bit had a feed rate much faster than any drills we have today, in the order of tens of times faster. The measurements were taken by surface analysis of the grooves in the hole sides left by the drill bits they used. Some of these trepan holes are very well preserved by river bed silt, these discoveries were first made in the 1960’s and recently confirmed using laboratory equipment. The hole sides show exactly the same pattern as those from our current high power drilling equipment, that being a classic corkscrew pattern left by the bit as it cuts through and feeds into the rock.
Modern theory also shows many pyramids were build as power plants but again the mainstream still quotes from books with outdated and disproven ideas.
I’d agree that we could indeed build them today but the question is what types of advanced skills and knowledge did the ancients possess in the past and how long did it take to acquire them?. If you look at the evidences from other earlier cultures, it looks to be that there are many evidences of cultures arising around the same time or earlier with similar skills in astronomy, math, geometry, stonework and unified construction skills, etc.. The Carahunge site in Armenia and Gobekli Tepe in Turkey among others predate the ones in the Egypt/Middle East or at least were co-existent if one questions the dating methods and rise of cultures/time periods.
Another interesting documentary… “The Revelation of the Pyramids”…narrated by Brian Cox…which ties together many ancient megalithic sites, evidences of higher skills and knowledge in the past, etc.. Personally, I think the Egyptians and other cultures may have used stone ball bearings/tracks to move numerous large stone blocks during construction…we find tens of thousands of precisely machined round or cylindrical bowls and vases in Egypt of some of the hardest rocks on Earth…granite and diorite. It’s likely to me they were used as ball bearings or rollers before being re-purposed as bowls and vases, etc.. and perhaps the secret of their use was not written down or depicted in work scenes we find so as to prevent other nearby cultures from copying their efforts. Stone balls or marbles are found in a number of other megalithic sites such as Stonehenge and others.
Ball bearings around Stonehenge…
The idea of “cultures rising suddenly at around the same time” is a myth, but an understandable one. WE have that perception because of the invention of writing. Building technologies vary widely (in terms of eras and dates), but in the ANE, for instance, we get the mythical notion that the Egyptians, for example, suddenly sprout high culture and knowledge at a certain date — usually corresponding to when they began to write things down. But a people could have had knowledge of any given number of subjects (e.g., astronomy or engineering) before learning to write. Once writing was established and used on a wide scale, that use creates the false impression that the knowledge being recorded “came into existence” at the same time. But pre-literate cultures knew lots of things (and megalithic architecture is a good example; and your samples are good ones about seeing advantage to certain abilities and protecting that). The point is twofold: (1) we can’t know for sure how long it took a culture to develop a technology, though certain technologies and archaeological finds allow reasonable guesses; and (2) we can’t assume technological innovations just popped into the collective mind of a culture — as though outside divine or alien intervention was the cause.
HAHA you’re so ignorant. It is humanly impossible to build these in the short amount of time that they built them without some sort of foreign help. They had to find a large enough quarry of rock, break off a piece of it, shape it, lug it to the build site, and lift. A lot of their build was even so precise and perfect you can’t fit a razor or a card in between the “gaps” of the rocks. Their angles are perfect, carvings are remarkable, and they are EXACTLY 100 times pi (great pyramid). They were far more advanced than we are now, and it wasn’t just by themselves..
LOL – so precision means aliens … ? (and you exaggerate the precision). You might want to try reading some of the research archived on the site, but I doubt that will happen. Call me crazy.
ok, haha, you tell yourself that. why don’t you ask the federal government to rebuild the great pyramid the exact same way? short asnwer, they won’t because they know damn well they can’t. It doesn’t take much thought to realize that our best CRANES can’t lift most of the stones even when they work together. have you seen the kings chamber? apparently that stone came from a quarry 500 miles away. yes, lol, i believe that our best technology can’t pick it up but somehow these primitive people with bronze hammers and rope could hall these things across the desert. King Tuts sarchophagus had bores in it that was concluded to be made by a DIAMOND COATED DRILL.
unfortunately, this is all utterly wrong and bogus — as the scholarship on the subject has shown many times over. The federal government couldn’t run its own cafeteria (literally – Google it while you’re not reading the research archived here). I wouldn’t ask them to run a lemonade stand. The feds aren’t authorities on anything except wasting our money.It’s really sad when the authority figure you think of is the federal government.
Oh, by no means do i think of the government as the true authority. Obviously the fortune 500 run things, not the feds. But you’re completely missing the point. Im using the gov as an example. U seem to overlook the fact that WE CANT MOVE THEM TODAY….WE CANT MOVE THEM TODAY! got it through your head yet? Ok ill say it 1and more time for ya WE CANT MOVE THEM TODAY! I challenge your “scholarships” to lift up 90and tons of granite and limestone, its sad tha use little factoids about the government. Typical yellow journalism flaws
What are talking about? The average weight of a pyramid block is 2.5 tons, about 5000lbs. A sikorsky CH-53E (helicopter) can lift 36,000lbs. The worlds largest cran can lift 1200 tons that’s 2,645,000 pounds.
Maybe the ancients used helicopters then..after all theyre depicted on the wall of the temple at Dendera.Mike will tell you they’re not but thats a matter of opinion,noone believes thats an accident caused by overlays-there is an overlaid image but there is also a helicopter depiction.And what of the Egyptian depiction of the two little men with large heads next to a vimana & symbols of electricity etc? Debunk that Mike if you can.Or ignore it like a debunker does
The blocks weighed on average 2.5 tons, but some weighed anywhere up to 16 tons. Most of these limestone blocks were transported from nearby quarries; however, the heaviest stones found inside the pyramid were transported from Aswan which is 500 miles away. These 25 to 80 ton stones were made of granite and are found in the king’s chamber.
TAISUN, the biggest, strongest crane in the world sets a crane heavy lift world record by lifting the 17,100 metric ton topsides of the Saipem-owned “Frigstad D90” semi-submersible “Scarabeo 9”.
1157 US Tons. 384 tires, The most extremely heavy load ever transported in North America. 2,314,000 lbs
Yes,because while Taisun,the world’s strongest crane,can lift 20,000 tons.IT CANNOT MOVE.
A Sikorsky Super Stallion helicopter couldn’t move even a fraction of a Baalbek Trilithon sized stone (800-1200 tons).
And btw there’s no proof the Trilithon is a Roman retaining wall-the Romans merely built on top of the pre-existent platform.Clearly the old civilization that put that there utilised some other type of methods
This will be my last comment on this. Uh, yes we can move these today — we could move them using the same methods as ancient people. You simply have not read the material that I’ve posted here (not posts – but journal articles by specialists in ancient engineering who specifically describe how it can be done, cite examples of some of the elements from ancient texts, and use similar examples from the Renaissance and early modern period (i.e., before there were cranes) of how stones LARGER than those of Baalbek were moved by simple applied physics. You’re just parroting what ancient alien theorists and others love to say — but they haven’t done the research either. It’s sad.
Dear Mr.Heiser-Please specify even ONE method of moving a 1200 stone block half a mile,since the largest cranes cannot move & the largest helicopter cranes cannot lift that much.
I know of no such equipment ancient or modern.
sure – http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2013/11/ancient-alien-fail-moving-300-ton-stones-build-chinas-forbidden-city/
Well that is interesting,using ice..but we’re talking about a 200 ton block that is claimed to have weighed 300..Certain of the Baalbek stones are upwards of 800 tons..I doubt this was the method used there..& it doesn’t meet my little challenge by any means
well like i said you can tell yourself that all you want. However, there is already flaws in your first article here. the panama canal did have more cubic feet of stone.Yet building a massive canal and building a gigantic pyramid is like saying i measured a million foot long road with a ruler ( or more accurately, like saying we will build a million mile long wall of stone made up of 60 MILLION CUBIC FEET OF STONE, hmm sounds like the great wall of china to me…) why? because it was not all compacted together like a pyramid is. it was much easier to build the canal because we werent building it to the height of the pyramids nor using the same sized stones.Dump trucks can carry millions of cubic feet worth of gravel over a period of time, but can it pick it all up at once? no. and comparing the technology even from the late 1800’s to the common metal work that ancients had was like comparing a stone axe to a surgical laser. sure, i would’nt believe the ancient astronaut theory either if the pyramids were made of individual hand sized bricks. because given enough time, a group of 12 year olds could do that. but nothing here can really explain the pyramids, not equations, none of this mainstream crap, just logic and common sense. allthough i respect your opinion, i expect the same without nonsensical ridicule. because the way to knowing if someone is truly ignorant is when they say they “know” we dont know anything. our opinions are just as relevant.
I’d like to note for readers that your comments *still* have not engaged any specific explanations put forth by the ancient engineering scholars in the material on this blog.
still not getting the point, i don’t need any engineer telling me whats true or not. unless you’ve been to the pyramids then don’t go by what others have told you. make up your own mind. There are plenty of credited engineers that will say the exact opposite. Reading your information will do nothing but waste my time with the same stuff they’ve been telling us for years. its nothing new…
btw, i don’t really think anyone else is reading this stuff either
Those comments disappear lol Mike deletes them
No; let’s no be childish. I’m on the road and just got a chance to look at my blogs. I’m not living to read what you say on the comments. I don’t always get to things right away.
” when they say they “know” we dont know anything*
**When they say they “know”. Because we don’t really know anything**
(had to correct that sentence there)
Right. Engineers would be the last people to listen to. Especially people who specialize in ancient construction techniques, and do things like read ancient sources for how they did things.
yes, lol, espeicially when you say they “specialize in ancient construction techniques” when they of course, hehe……didnt build the pyramids. haha. tell me, what makes you a specialist in building things that non of us were around to witness or even really build? just because we have measurers a some fancy equations doesn’t mean that we have mastered all of physics and geometry. and once again, selective journalism at its finest. quote ” right, engineers would be the last people to listen to” my quote ” there are plenty of credited engineers who will say the exact opposite”
and “do things like read ancient sources for how they did things” yes, they also wrote about a gator-headed,upper body lion, lower bodyed hippo demon named “ammit” do you take that seriously? theres no telling what they really ment. regardless if its about gods or construction
comment that got deleted: ya, lol especially since they of course…well…didnt build the pyramids. hehe. tell me, what makes someone a true expert in building something that no one was around to witness, nor build themselves?
again selective journalism at its finest. your quote ” right, engineers would be the last people to listen to” my quote ” there are penty of credited engineers who would say the opposite”.
and: “do things like read ancient sources for how they did things” ya, they also wrote about a crocodile headed, lion-hippo bodyed demon named AMMIT. do you take that seriously? Who knows what they really ment. as far as im concerned, trusting anything written by them can’t be really used. regardless if it is about gods or construction. they had very altered ways of writing and meanings.
your links here can’t be considered valuable information due to the experts extreme bias nature.
This one just shows ignorance and immaturity. Do you really think I’d be hiding your comments like they had any substance? It’s time to grow up, or go back to watching You Tube.
Since you haven’t offered one point of data to refute any of the material in the articles I’ve posted, this will be your last comment (your attitude also has something to do with that, too). This blog isn’t about me wasting my time trying to convince you to read. It’s about “doing battle” with data. You haven’t brought any to the table.
Now, to answer your easy question:
Ancient people (like the Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, etc.) actually did leave texts behind on how they built thing, visualizations (i.e., drawings) on how they did what they did, tools (including drawings of how they were used). You can go to quarries and literally see the pounding stones used to pound out mega-ton obelisks. You can see pictures of them on barges (no UFOs). Real scholars *study* those things and test the techniques (we have these need things today like math and computer modeling to do that – and yeah, it works; remember that the next to you drive over a bridge or visit a skyscraper). When it comes to Baalbek (bigger than any stones in Egypt), the author of the article you didn’t read on my site used as his models techniques from Roman works (the Romans have a lot to do with Baalbek) as well as engineering techniques used to move a block of granite (by hand – no aliens there that day) in the 18th century, before there were cranes – that stone was 1,250,000 kilograms – *heavier* than Baalbek (1.5 times the weight).
So yeah, there are people who actually look at the problem, do the math (literally), and figure out, via applied physics, how it could be done. And in the case of the 18th century stone, how it WAS done.
Real scholars don’t watch ancient aliens and set back amazed. They laugh. Like I am now.
well yes, lol especially when you say they “specialize in ancient construction techniques” when they of course hehe…didnt build the pyramids, tell me, what makes someone an expert in something they werent there to witness or even really build?again, just because we have tape measurers and fancy equations doesnt mean we have mastered all of physics and geometry.
and once again, selective journalism at its finest. quote from you “yes, engineers would be the last person to listen to” my quote “there are plenty of credited engineers that would say the opposite”. AND “do things like read ancient sources for how they did things” well, the egyptians also wrote about an alligator headed, upper body lion,lower body hippo demon named ammit. Do you take that seriously? Theres no telling what any of the stuff they wrote really ment. Wether its about gods or construction.
Everything you have on this website and all the links cannot be considered valuable sources of information because its biased beyond belief…
why does my comment keep deleting. what are you doing mike?
sorry; I’ve been playing around with the Disqus plugin (with the settings). Try it again tonight or tomorrow.
You know the problem I have with claiming the Giza pyramids were a gradual production of Egyptian production alone is this:
1) We have tried for the last 2000 years now in various cultures & civilizations to reproduce the building of those pyramids & have failed… miserably!
2) Even if the Egyptians did build the pyramids where did they get the math, so much of the math they were using was way beyond the capabilities of their era & even many era & cultures after them didn’t duplicate it (but I’m not selling the Egyptian capabilities short), it’s just that if we can’t even reproduce it today with all the capabilities & advances we have how did they build Khufu’s pyramid at Giza in just 20 years. & each one of the Giza Pyramids was built in the life of one man but you’d think that ok the next pyramid after Khufu’s would have been bigger & better but then poof you get a the smallest one at giza. Somethings wrong with that picture… were the Egyptians trying to down size their architecture like we downsize
our computer technology? why the hell would they feel the need to do that?
3) How the hell did they move 2.3 million stone blocks each weighing 2.5 tonnes in just 20 yeas & then place them neatly in pyramid fashion building upwards & all the while build an interior labyrinth of corridors & rooms. You know if they were going downwards I could see them doing it all by themselves but that wasn’t the case. OH wait a minute they found a 4th pyramid by satellite recently with a very long ramp… the ramp starts downwards and ends at the bottom & is the longest ramp we’ve seen yet.
4) Then the three pyramids of Giza are a perfect reproduction of the 3 stars of Orion’s belt… wait a minute they
were aligned with a star constellation… WTF for? Orions belt is a pretty boring constellation to be so obsessed about even for an ancient don’t you think? So WTF was that all about?
5) The Temple of Karnak is beyond anything we’ve ever produced in the last 2600 years since Herodotus.
The great temple at the heart of Karnak is so big, St Peter’s, Milan and
Notre Dame Cathedrals could be lost within its walls. The Hypostyle
hall at 54,000 square feet with its 134 columns is still the largest
room of any religious building in the world. In addition to the main
sanctuary there are several smaller temples and a vast sacred lake.
How they hell did they do that? Ancient civilization, barely evolved to stage of the Greek & Persian civilizations.
They’re production make Greek & Persian productions look scanty & puny not even the Romans exemplify such magnificent architecture! How could they do this…mere barbarians compared to our era!
6) Modern engineers like to hypothesis & theorize how the Egyptians did with very little evidence of the positions
since we still don’t really know how they did it all by themselves with no guiding help from another extra source
of creativity. The Modern engineer has the bias of modern technology, yet modern technology has not
reproduced the smallest of the Giza pyramids or any production like it.
7) OK granted Alex Collier is quite a wack job, & thinks he talks to aliens (Schizophrenia implied) but Zacharia Sitchin was a notable expert in Sumerian cuniform with a degree in economics & he rendered evidence & examples that to date show that extra-terrestrial phenomenon in Babylonian/Sumerian civilizations is implied. If so, how come skeptics so easily dismiss that the Great Pyramids don’t imply some extra-terrestrial involvement in our past.
8) We’ve yet to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that a random Darwinian solution is the origin of our species.
Modern day interpretation of humanities origins seem accurate on the surface of things but when we dig deeper into our origins we find tremendous complexities that get us into endless arguments to the point that i can no longer accept the tradtional gradual evolution theory is the only plausible explanation out there. I agree gradual evolution occurs but I do not agree that gradual evolution is the only explanation for the production of man & nature.
9) There are other theories other than the standard tripe, they should be explored but every time someone from
outside authoritative positions explores them, (usually because the public gets little & next to 0 closure on the
research controlled & conducted usually by the political correct), these people get black listed or shunned by
10) if the Alien theorist are so wrong why do so many detractors come out and vehemently attack them.
If they’re so wrong people will notice & say hey look at these bafoons. But in reality so many people are
fascinated by the alien archeology theorists that I can’t believe that these detractors are correct.
11) An ancient Peruvian civilization out of Cusco & Machu Picchu had a unique series of artifacts we’ve
discovered. They depicted ancient wonders that defy our sense of reasoning today that we had no interaction
with Gods or extra-terrestrials & did not have exposure to the dinosaurs but the Ica stones say different & they
even indicate we had technology in the past even more advanced than what we have today.
It actually led to the Jurassic Park theory that we could bio-engineer dinosaurs and while it was hailed as
science fiction back in the 90’s, today it’s theoretical possible given our advances in bio-engineering.
12) What science knows today is only a fraction of what humanity has known in the past & what we will
know over the next thousand years. Machiu Kaku theoretical physicist believes aliens exist & we may one
day be faced with an invasion of aliens. His remark from an interview in support of SETI, “We could be in the
middle of an intergalactic conversation…and we wouldn’t even know.” shows he thinks it will take us by
surprise one day. SETI – search for extraterrestrial intelligence… This is the same same as the
Egyptian God SET minus the I (as in eye of Ra), now I don’t think that that is a coincidence either.
Do you? If so, did you actually study this shit… i did & well OK i’m not totally credulous but I’m
not totally skeptical either…
There is just too many fraking grey area’s to say either way in these maters.
Nobody has any reason to reproduce the pyramids — and frankly, who tried? I don’t know any instances where other ancient cultures said, “we need to do one of those, too.” They built other amazing things, like the lighthouse at Alexandria. It’s a false “litmus test.”
Their math wasn’t beyond the task at all. You don’t need calculus to build a pyramid. A base-ten system and fractions (and geometric principles – like the 3-4-5 principle Wallignton shows in his video – to produce the angle of the great pyramid – is just fine).
On the “how?” watch Wallington’s video and then watch Houdin’s video. This has quite workable solutions using simple principles of counterweight and leverage. It’s frankly brilliant.
The Orion correlation is also simply achieved. (It’s also not “perfect” but that’s beside the point). You could do this today with a straight line object – align it visually, measure the angle of the offset, apply the results to a small scale grid on the ground, then plot the larger grid.
Basically everything you have in this comment is answered in the materials on this site, so I’m not going to go through this whole thing. None of it is unknown to folks who specialize in Egyptian engineering and quarrying methods. It’s all ground that’s been covered. While ancient astronaut theorists and Internet writers are breathlessly saying it’s all a mystery, real scholars have produced answers that are repeatable, scaleable, and reflected by the archaeological record.
Sure it was people. But we couldn’t build a better pyramid faster today and that is a fact. I work in the iron industry and I see crazy things built that you’d never believe, even have a hand in them. Your article offers little to no proof of anything either, and you are calling your commenters ignorant for calling you out. We don’t have the technology to lift these stones without abrasion marks, perfectly into place, to create the hydraulic pump system that is the pyramid of Giza. Of course it was people who built the pyramid. But they were smarter than you and I. Have you ever heard of Acoustic Resonance Levitation? With nobody truly mastering the technique in modern society, the pyramid could never be built, and to say we could do better is surely an ignorant thing to say. Society is deteriorating, to the point where people don’t even offer explanations in their arguments. “We built the panama canal therefore we can build the pyramid too :D!” If there was a simpleton explanation like that for everything, I’m sure it would say alot about humanity as a whole, but instead, it just says alot about you. You must remember people are not becoming more, intelligent with time. We have been a straight downward path for the last 250 years due to the powers that be, and you are foolish if you think you are exempt. The information achieved by carbon dating shows the stones were moved in a timely manner. I do truly believe with effort the great pyramid of Giza could have been built by people WITHOUT doubt. But the elaborate complexities inside the pyramid would be nowhere near the level of perfection. These pyramids, unlike Rome, WERE built in a day (or 7). But I don’t see you using that data. See, each molecule has a magnetic value. Acoustic resonance uses this to lift objects and basically “take their weight away”, so you can basically slide it into place. I have no doubt they used barges to transport quarried stones, but humans didn’t lift them into place with brute strength, or there would be alot more imperfection than what you see. Also stop talking to people like they are stupid, or saying every argument has to do with aliens. I don’t say shit here about aliens, so don’t even use the alien mockery trick in your reply. The problem with people, is that they are willing to sell themselves short as soon as they can’t figure it out, it must have involved foreign help. Which by the way, is retarded, people are intelligent beings. We used to be the most intelligent thing on Earth. The most powerful, of course we built these ourselves, but we had smarter people than engineers doing math. I strongly doubt you could throw a pyramid of Giza up in a week and have a better result, because the devolution of society is willing to bet you’re wrong.
I agree that we could build a pyramid today if we wanted to. One important point that you seem to have missed is the very size and the location of the Great Pyramid suggests that the ancients’ veneration for the universe produced advanced mathematicians and engineers whose knowledge was eventually obliterated. There might come a day when people will not know just how the Panama Canal was built.
In 1999 experts were so convinced that not only could they build a Pyramid using modern tools, but build it better than the Egyptians did, that they decided to let themselves be filmed while they did so. It was broadcast. They failed. Completely. Utterly. Without exception.
I know all about this and watched it years ago. Problem with this excuse: they didn’t use the sort of techniques the Egyptians would have used (or that Houdin illustrates more currently, or that Wally Wallington demonstrates). In other words, these “experts” showed a profound ignorance of ancient construction techniques.
The properties of stone as a construction material and whether ancient cultures built pyramids due to some shared linkage or because a pyramid is the only large structure you can build? – http://youtu.be/f5gjbC9AuEo
Yes but there is evidence the great pyramid was not built at the time of Cheops,the failed pyramids were built way after the best ones which were built at an earlier time.Egyptologists havent realistically said how the great pyramid was built with copper tools.I’d be interested to hear Mike talk about the Baigong pipes of China